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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Jun 9 @ 2:16 PM ET
Jeremy Laura: Darren Pang jumps sinking Bally ship for Chicago - Detroit needs a plan
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Jun 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
A LOT of bad things are going to happen in the NHL Greed rules and sometimes it bites you in the ass. Ticket prices are out of site and the product is not the same as it was 25 years ago. Too many with fat wallet syndrome (players) and greedy agents will drive this league down the drain. Too bad because it once was the greatest sport and now it is a shell of its former self. Remember GREED RULES They never have enough Give me mo money is what we taught them and now we the fans have to pay for it NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Jun 9 @ 3:56 PM ET
I’m going to try and get a deep dive on “cable cutters”. It was recently spoken about on some of the youtube channels that the average age for Cable news (and even some regular programming) was around 60. There are so many options and with the current writer’s strike the actors and directors may join the ranks. Currently estimated to be costing 30 million per day, we’re around the 5 week mark. If those numbers are right 1.05 billion has been lost. The last strike lasted around 7 months and lost 2 billion. If this goes even 4 months it could dwarf that #
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 9 @ 3:58 PM ET
Rebuild the broadcast team. Ken is meh and Mickey sucks.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Jun 9 @ 4:10 PM ET
Rebuild the broadcast team. Ken is meh and Mickey sucks.
- Feds91Stammer


I know there are a number of people who want a switch. I think right now try and find a consistent and reliable partner before dumping/swapping talent. Find some sort of continuity. For some reason, this sport reacts poorly to lack of consistency
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jun 9 @ 4:31 PM ET
Panger to Chi-town to take Eddy O's ole job. I like Panger.

Eddy has been more tolerable since Chicago did not meet his demands. He was such a one-sided homer on the Hawks broadcasts.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jun 9 @ 4:34 PM ET
On another note: even Freidman has Detroit in 1st place for acquiring Debrincat. I don't think he is worth Larkin money. But it will take at least 8 x 8 to land him plus 2-3 assets.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jun 9 @ 4:56 PM ET
Wow....so the landscape's definitely changing.

I seriously dislike black-out. I'm a 'Canes fan, but will die a loyal Hockeytown devote'. Streaming sucks because the public needs to subscribe to 50 different services just to watch what they want. Between DirecTV and streaming, I have to sell my soul each month just to get by.

Howie needs to go. He looks SOOOO out of place. He's unrelatable, not welcoming, and seems like he's never played the game. I really don't like his stage presence. Seriously degrades what quality was there before.

I love Mickey & Ken. I watch a lot of hockey and can count on 2 fingers the guys who care enough about player's names to get them right (to the point of writing them out phoenetically). Mick's stories are great and I'd love to have a book of all of his yarns. But he probably needs to focus more on what is vs
what was. Paul Woods talks too fast and quietly for my taste. Ken Kal? Meh. Studio needs lots of work.

Why would broadcast entities pay for a product that continuously loses value? The NHL is quickly losing appeal, so something needs to change. There's very little to pull new fans in. The game is expensive to get into for kids, so the viewers are old farts like us who survived The Dead Things era and dream of a return to Hockeytown glory. They need youth. Some of the national broadcasters are embarrassing to listen to. Gretz, Biz, King Henrik, etc... do an ok job. Biz can be annoying....But there's NO DRAW for new fans. Folks in Miss. ain't gonna tune in because so few know about hockey and have almost 0 attachment to the game and nothing's being done to capture their interest. It's a Northern & Canadian game. Convince an Alabaman to watch and stay a viewer/fan. It's not relatable to them.....relate it. And don't make me pay a king's ransome to watch my Red Wings play.... Ready? Set. GO!
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jun 9 @ 4:58 PM ET
Panger to Chi-town to take Eddy O's ole job. I like Panger.

Eddy has been more tolerable since Chicago did not meet his demands. He was such a one-sided homer on the Hawks broadcasts.

- HenryHockey


I kinda like EdZo. Shabby player but a good broadcaster voice and at least tries to explain the game. Dude's got a great back-story as well (survived colon cancer, etc...). But YES......a "Homer" (finally figured out what that meant!!!)
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jun 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
On another note: even Freidman has Detroit in 1st place for acquiring Debrincat. I don't think he is worth Larkin money. But it will take at least 8 x 8 to land him plus 2-3 assets.
- HenryHockey


Really?? The Cat could be a good pick up, but NOT for what I'd imagine the ask would ve (Kaspar, etc...). Ras, Zadina, Veleno, etc... + a 2d or 2 spread over the next few years? I don't think we could get him for less than 8x$8m because he had a good couple of years and ego.....
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 9 @ 5:25 PM ET
With all of the broadcasting nonsense, how do they expect the Cap to go up when they're losing money on regional rights? It could be fixed by adding a couple of teams from Canada. Hockey is King, here in Canada, and most markets do quite well. Quebec City is sitting on a new NHL caliber arena and a rabid fanbase. If the Metro New York area can support 3 NHL teams, I'm sure Toronto could support 2. With the two major sports networks owning 40% of the Leafs each, one of those two could spin off their 40% for the right to own the new Toronto franchise and broadcast their new acquisition. The issue of paying the Leafs to allow another franchise into the market also becomes moot. The league could make a killing with two new Canadian franchises. But then there's Butt(head)man. He doesn't give a sh!t about Canadian teams and uses them like slave labour to augment the league through revenue sharing. If anything, the NHL should allow some contraction and weed out the weak franchises that exist through Revenue Sharing. Time to move Buttman out of his position and put a hockey person in charge.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 9 @ 5:46 PM ET
On another note: even Freidman has Detroit in 1st place for acquiring Debrincat. I don't think he is worth Larkin money. But it will take at least 8 x 8 to land him plus 2-3 assets.
- HenryHockey

Based on what? The tweet from the parody account?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 9 @ 7:04 PM ET
Really?? The Cat could be a good pick up, but NOT for what I'd imagine the ask would ve (Kaspar, etc...). Ras, Zadina, Veleno, etc... + a 2d or 2 spread over the next few years? I don't think we could get him for less than 8x$8m because he had a good couple of years and ego.....
- mcmastermike1968


How's this sound? Trade for Cat then sign Patrick Kane to a PTO in mid- season after he returns from his hip injury. If he shows he is fully healthy, sign him for 2M-3M for the rest of the season and put him on a line with Debrincat. They would resurrect their chemistry and put up a ton of points. Then the following year, extend Kane for a couple of years. He's less than 200 points from being the all time USA born point leader. He'll get that in 2-1/2 years playing with Debrincat.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Jun 9 @ 10:03 PM ET
With all of the broadcasting nonsense, how do they expect the Cap to go up when they're losing money on regional rights? It could be fixed by adding a couple of teams from Canada. Hockey is King, here in Canada, and most markets do quite well. Quebec City is sitting on a new NHL caliber arena and a rabid fanbase. If the Metro New York area can support 3 NHL teams, I'm sure Toronto could support 2. With the two major sports networks owning 40% of the Leafs each, one of those two could spin off their 40% for the right to own the new Toronto franchise and broadcast their new acquisition. The issue of paying the Leafs to allow another franchise into the market also becomes moot. The league could make a killing with two new Canadian franchises. But then there's Butt(head)man. He doesn't give a sh!t about Canadian teams and uses them like slave labour to augment the league through revenue sharing. If anything, the NHL should allow some contraction and weed out the weak franchises that exist through Revenue Sharing. Time to move Buttman out of his position and put a hockey person in charge.
- PrinceLH


Here’s the real bizarre moment. The cap isn’t even the cap. Escrow lets owners “spend” but in reality only pay around 80% many years. Until we can find a route to a year with 0 escrow, the players are giving a refund to the league. I think the hesitance with the market is the cash fluctuation. At one point, LCA accepted Canadian but charged a 40% premium. If the Canadian dollar falls, all payers have to be paid in US funds. Toronto, not worried. Montreal, not worried. Why on earth can’t they figure out a way to level this out by having teams with corporate hq all in one place and treat the on site teams as branches. The toughest part is that Canada has about the same total population as California. 40 million at last check. That limits markets, and if there’s a crash it’s a huge problem. But, Toronto and Montreal (in normal years) are giving money to other teams who fail to draw. It sucks, and I don’t know the solution
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Jun 9 @ 10:04 PM ET
Based on what? The tweet from the parody account?
- Feds91Stammer


I’d love the Cat but i don’t think Ottawa wants to see him on the other side of the ice wearing a Winged Wheel
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 9 @ 10:15 PM ET
Really?? The Cat could be a good pick up, but NOT for what I'd imagine the ask would ve (Kaspar, etc...). Ras, Zadina, Veleno, etc... + a 2d or 2 spread over the next few years? I don't think we could get him for less than 8x$8m because he had a good couple of years and ego.....
- mcmastermike1968

A realistic ask is 17OA, Berggren, and a 2nd which is very reasonable.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jun 9 @ 11:47 PM ET
How's this sound? Trade for Cat then sign Patrick Kane to a PTO in mid- season after he returns from his hip injury. If he shows he is fully healthy, sign him for 2M-3M for the rest of the season and put him on a line with Debrincat. They would resurrect their chemistry and put up a ton of points. Then the following year, extend Kane for a couple of years. He's less than 200 points from being the all time USA born point leader. He'll get that in 2-1/2 years playing with Debrincat.
- boilermaker100


Interesting thought to reunite them. I'm by no means an expert, so am open to most proposed trades that better the Wings. Kane's such an amazing talent. The Cat's shown a couple of good years, so I wonder what his threshold could be. I like this kid, to be sure. But dropping 8x$8m sounds like one hell of a committment when we aren't sire what the future holds for cap, broadcast rights, etc... I dunno. I do kinda like your peoposal, depending on who OTT would want...
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jun 9 @ 11:50 PM ET
A realistic ask is 17OA, Berggren, and a 2nd which is very reasonable.
- Feds91Stammer


Feds for the win!! I'd sign onto that deal. Bear-Grin's shown decently, the 17th was a bonus for Hronek and the 2nd isn't going to kill us. Cat's good. He'd improve this club in a heartbeat.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Jun 10 @ 11:24 AM ET
Panger to Chi-town to take Eddy O's ole job. I like Panger.

Eddy has been more tolerable since Chicago did not meet his demands. He was such a one-sided homer on the Hawks broadcasts.

- HenryHockey


EDDIE O will not be missed Mr know it all
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jun 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
Based on what? The tweet from the parody account?
- Feds91Stammer

No this one was Freidman.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/32-thoughts/
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jun 10 @ 1:10 PM ET
A realistic ask is 17OA, Berggren, and a 2nd which is very reasonable.
- Feds91Stammer
The ask is reasonable, but the 8 x8 is not in IMHO.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:55 PM ET
The ask is reasonable, but the 8 x8 is not in IMHO.
- HenryHockey

Not that I’m a huge Debrincat fan but I’m not sure how else this team gets a 40 goal scorer.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jun 10 @ 4:27 PM ET
Not that I’m a huge Debrincat fan but I’m not sure how else this team gets a 40 goal scorer.
- Feds91Stammer


I would rather add two 20 goal scorers over Debrincat and his soon to be overpaid contract. Wings don't need a small scoring winger that can't play defense. Instead of wasting assets on him just use those assets to get Crouse out of Arizona and bring in another 20 goal scorer with some size, grit and toughness.

Better to have more scoring depth than a few guys that get all the goals because when they go cold or get injured, your team is in big trouble.

Only way i would ever want Debrincat is if he can be traded for without giving up a 1st round pick or a good prospect plus he signs for around 7 mil a year. Aside from that, i'm more than happy to see him go somewhere else.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 10 @ 4:58 PM ET
I would rather add two 20 goal scorers over Debrincat and his soon to be overpaid contract. Wings don't need a small scoring winger that can't play defense. Instead of wasting assets on him just use those assets to get Crouse out of Arizona and bring in another 20 goal scorer with some size, grit and toughness.

Better to have more scoring depth than a few guys that get all the goals because when they go cold or get injured, your team is in big trouble.

Only way i would ever want Debrincat is if he can be traded for without giving up a 1st round pick or a good prospect plus he signs for around 7 mil a year. Aside from that, i'm more than happy to see him go somewhere else.

- dcz28

HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jun 10 @ 5:58 PM ET
Senators trade Alex DeBrincat to the Red Wings for Filip Zadina and the 17th pick in 2023
By Eric Duhatschek (Athletic)
Jun 9, 2023



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